or his one main solution, let's not mention this will kill low level drug dealers or execute low level drug dealers if you are going to kill -- that sounds like a new war on drugs. it doesn't sound like a solution for getting people into treatment or getting people help and stopping people from dying for the worst drug crisis in american history. >> and there is an economic component. some is overprescribing and we'll talk about that, but some is that this is pervasive in areas where we've seen seen low unemployment. >> and since people have voted for trump, alienation and they don't feel like they have a job and hopeless are the reason that people turn to drugs like heroin and fentanyl and before that prescription pain medication. and there seems to be a profound disconnect between the way the president thinks about this and the reality on the ground. >> thank you for your continued reporting. this is a crisis and we need to stay on top of us. joining me now, gary mend'll you