because they see a president on the verge of making what they think would be a big mistake. >> let me stay with you and ask you a question that comes out of stuff we were discussing earlier and matthew miller's comments about jeff sessions. session is supposed to be recused from not just the russia piece of the mueller investigation but anything that touches on the campaign because of his involvement in the campaign, so anything related to trump or clinton and so by any normal reading of that he should not have been in a position to make a final determination about whether mccabe should have been fired or not so i accept matt miller's assessment that sessions is trying to create favor with trump or that he solved this as a litmus test but how does he get away with making this ruling under the terms of his recusal? >> that's the one thing that's soured his relationship with president trump now. president trump made very clear that he is angry that jeff sessions recused himself in the beginning from the investigation. that's been a public barrage of