situation here is so unusual, so out of bounds that he has to break the rules to head off danger. that's really a perilous road to go down. i think bill's comments is interesting one and may be calculated that sessions engaged in, if he did i think it is the wrong one. you follow the rules, support the institution. you fire someone if it's appropriate, you don't fire someone if it's not appropriate. and here with the president calling for a politically motivated firing and then he would have been let the clock run out and let mccabe retire on sunday afternoon. >> fascinating. geoff bennett, we note the president's public schedule is out for the weekend. he is in washington, he's not in florida. there's nothing on his publicly posted schedule. you've been at this a long time in your life of course, reporting for npr before nbc