conversations, mccabe in particular, accused of not playing it straight. would have thought that this would be right thing to do, obviously, because he was being accused of acting improperly. at the same time potentially having private discussions with the president. there's a brief time he was the acting director of the fbi even before he was acting director, he made very sensitive decisions about how the bureau handled the investigation into hillary clinton and also, as you mentioned, he was involved very early in the fbi's investigation of potential trump campaign collusion with russia. for him to later document his conversations with the president, not surprising and probably a wise thing to do. >> ken delanian, i want to return to the statement of andrew mccabe. this attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally but to taint the fbi, law enforcement and intelligence professionals more generally, part of this administration's ongoing war on the fbi and the efforts of the special counsel investigation, which continue to this day. their persistence in this