>> will you deny that the president of the united states threatened your client? >> i will not confirm or deny. >> no question, was the threat verbal? >> again, i'm not at liberty -- >> did anyone point at gun at her nae i'm not at liberty to discuss that. >> that was porn star stormy daniels's lawyer michael avenatti with a stunning charge his client has been threatened with physical harm. avenatti also confirmed something he hinted at on this program earlier this week about additional women coming forward with allegations about the president. john heilman was on set this morning for that interview. we should point out the white house has maintained its denial of the alleged sexual affair and in the press briefing today they said they have no knowledge of the threat. joining the conversation is jennifer ruben, washington post opinion writer. let me start with you, though, john, because you were there. did you learn anything else about the nature of the threat and about whether the timing of that is ongoing?