>> i think the lesson from rex tillerson's departure is if you want to keep your job in the white house, don't speak candidly about russia. and yesterday sarah sanders went out of her way to avoid honestly answering questions based off the fact pattern about russia's involvement with the murder of a former soviet spy in london. and on the same day, tillerson speaks candidly about what -- >> which he rarely does. >> which he rarely does about these issues. and the next day he's axed. sarah sanders is still there. rex tillerson is gone. the larger issue around here, and i think, you know, both my fellow panel members have touched on this, this white house is being managed like a clown rodeo. politics aside, partisan politics aside, you can't manage the federal government, the business campaign, your family life, when everyone around you is constantly getting axed. and it's also nosable that the