most effective person as a tool to get president trump's agenda through would be saccone for that reason. it's not just because he's republican. fascinating conversation there. >> yeah. so i mean, we wanted to see if this was going to be a referendum on the president. >> and the president himself suggested it was going to be -- >> well, from his perspective, it seems leak it's a referendum. or at it seems like everybody race has been a referendum. but my take, if first and foremost, they got nine months. we're going to vote in whoever they vote in and if they don't do a great job, we're going to vote again in november. this saul about turn out. what we need to remember is that -- >> as it is in so many cases. >> 70,000 more democrats are registered in this district than republicans. if they're able to get more turnout for the dem's side, it could go to connor lamb. but if you're a trump person through and through, what i saw,