may not exist at this time next year became make or break time for the president. how could the president's recent decisions on tariffs impact this individual race? and what will the results of this race tell us about what might be coming in the mid terms for both parties. joining me now to discuss this, nbc news correspondent von hilliard, columnist and opinion editor with penn live and patriot news, and new york state democratic party and democratic strategist and republican strategist great to have all of you with us. von, let me begin with you. you've been covering this for the past couple of days, i should say, on pennsylvania. out there in the field. for voters, is this race more about rick saccone or is this more about donald trump? >> ayman, i think for once we have a race that comes down to policy and where the two candidates stand. you talk it a lot of voters here on the ground and ways just talking to one gentleman, daniel miller, retired coal miner.