i really wanted the president to lose with blinding out my feelings about hillary clinton up until the "access hollywood" tape was released and i thought that was too much for me, for the tape to be released, not what he said, for them to release that tape. that was a bridge too far for me and i thought about the supreme court and i thought about other issues. >> so do you have a sense based on the questioning how large a role obstruction of justice may be playing in the mueller investigation? >> i don't. once again, they didn't ask me about it because i would have no -- once again, as i said before, and this is why this is not a witch hunt, this is not a witch hunt is all they want to know is knowledge that i could have firsthand knowledge of. all they want to know are facts. they are not asking sam what do you think about this? are your feelings about that? >> so seven hours a is a long time. >> wasn't seven hours. that's misreported. i was in the bidding sevuilding