president of the united states to get on the stage with this individual who is a war criminal, who has murdered americans, imprisoned hundreds of thousands of his own people, starved millions of people, and that is untenable to elevate him in that fashion. the north koreas show no sign, and the entire regime is built on the prim that they will have nuclear weapons to have leverage and reunify under their terms and conditions. we have a very long way to go. i don't think this meeting -- i certainly hope this meeting is never going to come off. and i think they figured out a clever way to see, well, we won't meet with him until, and the until measures are not going to happen. >> was that your take on things, kristen welker? >> yes, go ahead. >> jennifer ruben was saying sarah huckabee sanders walking