to the deliver a nuclear warhead to south korea, to japan. they probably have a rudiment tritt capability to deliver one to the united states. it's not proven. they haven't had enough tests. so what you have here is a possibility two leaders coz declare victory. kim jong-un could declare that he has completed his program, and achieved his nuclear capability and therefore, he's willing to talk. you could have president donald trump declare that his sanctions program, his pressure program has worked and therefore, he is willing to talk. that would be a tremendous development. that's what you need for successful talks. both sides have to be able to declare victory. hopefully at the end of the process, but it's a good sign they might be able to declare victory going into it. as evelyn pointed out, this is going to be a long tricky procedure, lots of things could go wrong with the talks. if we're going to get what we expect, we have achieved two major achievements, one a