outside of their normal loan processes. $500 million in american money of loans outside the process? this is the type of stuff that goes on 30 years ago in zaire, not in the united states of america. the magnitude of the corruption is just unfathomable. >> and that's the stuff we know. >> right. >> and the other question here is there is all this reporting about there is a lebanese businessman named george nader. again, it's sort of what you said this influence peddling middleman role that he has had. he is now being looked at by the mueller investigation. you have looked into their finances, and it just seems like such an obviously fruitful line of inquiry. >> it is unbelievable. this weekend when we saw reporting that the fbi's looking into the trump relationship with this ex-convict malaysian