stupid. >> you're right. >> it's an idealized view, too, of america and what it once was. and like as we see with the tariffs and everything, wanting to go back to a time where steel was king. as much as i like that title, that's not the reality. >> he's trying to -- >> there's a lot of stuff going on. >> i read a book review of pat buchanan, our dear friend, pat buchanan, and they said pat always wanted to return america -- this review is probably 15, 20 years old -- always wanted to return to beautiful, fall day in chevy chase in 1955. and it was never going back to that. and certainly donald trump really has adopted that. he wants to take america back to