>> that's what mccain always likes to say, al. >> well, look, he has four inflection points that help his strategy. one, he knows our infantry and military and the middle east. he knows our military is building up in the south china sea so a lot of money is going to the navy which he doesn't care about. he knows that we've got this global competition. so what he's doing? the cheapest thing you can do, he's disrupter in chief. i don't believe he really believe -- cared for donald trump to win. he wanted to undermine the basic structures of our country and not only our country, other countries. he's in the disruption business. every once in a while he'll do this nuclear thing to let the world know he is a top threat. he's into disruption but he's letting all the other guys do all the sweating and the hard work. >> the weaker we are, the more powerful he is. you look at the testimony on the hill i guess in this past week which kind of flew by because we had so many other headlines, but admiral mike rogers of the nsa saying that the price that putin is paying is basically nothing. and there's no reason for him