thank you for both for being here. let me start with you, joe, on this. you heard what the president said within the last week. his idea for a moment that he would support nonsales of assault weapons to those not yet 21 years old. what do you think has been discussed so far is a good idea to implement? >> there are lots of people out there discussing lots of ideas. we should be looking at everything schools can do to keep themselves safer, but unfortunately the reality is we've tried these type of assault weapon bans in the past and they've been shown to be failed policy. we need new ways for school to enact safety in a more efficient way. >> your response on this, ron, in terms of the ideas that have been discussed and you've seen the president move back and forth on this. >> i think the policy has failed also. first, joe, i want to thank you