it's in the can of campbell's soup there is about 2.6 cents. 2.6 pennies worth of steel. it doesn't mean anything. so, all this hysteria is a lot to do about nothing. >> is there credence to what secretary ross is saying there. will average americans be affected by this tariff on steel and aluminum? >> from my spur speperspective at this from 30,000 feet it is largely beyond the point. will the cost of a car go up? will the cost of a baseball bat go up? will the cost of campbell's soup go up? i don't believe that individuals will see this passed along immediately. but the bigger question here, dar dara, is whether or not this leads to a damaging trade war that could affect the consumer prices, the prices of imports going up and if we start to see