tonight,appreciate it. >> thank you. >> why do you think gates could be a key source of information on the central matter at hand here? >> well, you have paul manafort who is the campaign chair for a period of time and then you had corey land also played a role during the transition and thereafter. so he's in a position to see, you know, the whole length and breath of what was taking place. he traveled on the presidential plane for a period of time and he is obviously facing extraordinary liability and one of the messages that mueller was sending through the charge on the false statement and the other actions that we've seen him take vis-a-vis paul manafort is he's not going to tolerate any non-sense. the worst thing for rick gates right now would be to agree to cooperate and then be found to