part of that you saw today and over the past week is he would sort of float general ideas but offer no specifics or say maybe congress should do something. so he put himself in the center of the debate but without knowing where the exact fault lines were in the specifics of the policy. that said he has an incredibly fine tuned antenna for where the gun issue and where second amendment rights are culturally and out in the country. that's true in large swaths of the country that voted for him. so he does have the intuitive sense as he does on a number of issues, while he may not know the policy he knows where his base stands and feels he has a little wiggle room but can't go too far. >> jackie, two-part question for you as well does the president have the stomach to go up against the nra and after the public shaming of senator rubio do these student haves the power