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after me that i can't get to. but we do have the 32 indictments tonight and we're both covering that. and rachel as you know, the irs is always very proud to tell the story about how they never managed to get al capone for murder but they got him on tax evasion. that's what's in these indictments. >> we have been waiting since october for the tax evasion charges against manafort and gates not because we thought they might be tax frauds but because it was spelled out in the first indictment. now we have the tax charges. >> how could there not be tax evasion in a money laundering case. that's the one thing federal prosecutors know how to do. that's their strike zone, tax evasion. i've been in courtrooms watching tax evasion, it's hard to squeeze out of one of those as a

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