if i'm wayne la pierre and i say we support you, let's up the age limit, the president would get huge support for that. why wouldn't wayne lee pierre wouldn't give the president that? >> it's a head scratcher to me. earlier today i asked people who called in who are opposed to this. they say, i want to buy a gun and learn how to shoot. it doesn't prevent a family from lending its weapons an end teaching children how to learn. another person said i can join the military at 18. yes, then you get trained in weaponry. it's a head scratcher. donald trump, the populist president, is going to lead an effort to get federal legislation through the spending clause to get states to raise their age limit to 21. the nra is very organized, very vocal. off in the forefront in a way against gun issues. >> what's president trump going to do? he held that listening session yesterday and some are saying big deal, who knows what he's going to do. you got to give him credit he