sam nunberg is kind of a charming rogue here and he's on record saying it's a den of thieves, everybody lies about everything, but cohen obviously everything he has said about stormy daniels and others has had a fishy smell to high heaven. and he's going to be very hard pressed. you know, mueller just remember indicted a lawyer, alex van der zwaan for lying and serving notice that lawyers like cohen, like don mcgahn may well be in trouble if they lie to him. but cohen seems to have been the bag man for these sorts of things for many years and he's got a lot to tell if he chooses to. >> i can just imagine how much fun it is in the special prosecutor office's to see sam nunberg on tv yesterday saying something like that and now they