>> brian, most presidents regarded the state of the union speech as not just a night, but really a month, a week leading up to the speech, two or three weeks after on the road, in which you can expect to dominate the agenda with what you're actually trying to do on policy substance. donald trump, in part by choice because he weighs into controversies, in part by 10 because he's been overtaken by events, particularly the russia investigation and the shooting. he totally squandered that opportunity. >> so, phillip, getting things done, getting out ahead of a cycle, a news cycle, a day, a half a day, there must be a list in this west wing of things they want to accomplish. he talked about it three weeks ago. >> i mean, theoretically, i think it's safe to assume that president trump has a fairly limited policy agenda that he wants to put forward. he certainly did articulate some things during the state of the union address, he talked about immigration in particular, but he's not a policy guy, he's not a policy wonk, he's not somebody