prevent this we call bs. >> we know what we're up against. the nra has a lot of politicians in their back pocket but as long as politicians continue to get money from the nra, we're going to vote them out. >> for more, i'm joined by tim ryan from youngstown, whi. and republican congressman charlie dent from bethlehem, pennsylvania. let me ask you, where are you on the ar-15 which is 9 gun of choice of these school shootings? mr. ryan? >> at the very least, they need to be limited. you can't let 18-year-old kids go out there and get these kind of guns. that should be the first step as we start limiting the ability of certain people to get these things. >> it you would put a national age requirement of what? to get an ar-15. >> you got to figure it out like these kids in florida were so articulate about. you can't buy a beer but you can