this indictment, which is, a really detailed conspiracy, they do say that americans, including those affiliated with the trump campaign had no knowledge that russians were behind it. alex? >> kelly o, thank you so much, we'll see you again thanks for that. let's bring in danny savalos, msnbc legal analyst. the president's claim that the russia investigation is a hoax -- does this indictment nullify that? >> it doesn't nullify it legally. because of course it's an indictment and only an accusation. but it does tend to show that, that maybe most, most impressively, that citizens, actual citizens without a partisan interest, sat on a grand jury and passed on the evidence presented by a prosecutor and chose to indictment. that alone is very significant. and it tends to show that there was at least probable cause established that there was russian involved in the attempts