we have a slight crisis here at work. the fbi busted our activity. not a joke. so i got preoccupied with covering tracks, together with the colleagues. obviously, this is their smoking gun e-mail when they caught this person. september 13th, 2017. that means these folks were operating in their minds unimpeded until september of last year. >> that's right. and first we should ask, how does the u.s. government have that e-mail? that shows you what resources have been brought to bear from all the intelligence agencies. and i'm told today the cia and nsa had to improve the language of the indictment because it included such -- >> how they could have gotten that e-mail. that is a -- that's -- chuck, fisa warrant for something like that? an e-mail like that, how do you -- there's only a few ways, right? >> that's a fair guess. there are other ways, and i can't talk about those ways. but i think that's a fair guess. >> the other thing, chuck, it underscores that this attack is still ongoing. the russians, as the intelligence chief told us last week, are still meddling through