reporter you know where i'm going with this. that matters a lot because the source of the funds and their accounting could spell the difference between whether this was a private legal payment which means then the voters can hear about it and care or not care, fine, or a me tension violation of federal election law, jim. >> right, that harkins back to the john edwards scandal. if this were about ari melber or jim moret, we would be brought up on charges. my concern is that this is just the saga, the scandal of the week, right? i'm curious why trump's own lawyer says he wants to clarify this unfortunate saga. he's bringing it up again. it's not unfortunate. either there was a relationship or there wasn't. he paid her off or he didn't. it's straightforward. this could be federal election commission violation. >> that's another interesting part. jim and liz plank who covered the story with us before, thank you both. i have something else special on