liberties with a child sol that's the person john kelly testified on behalf of in 2016. >> all of the ramifications of the story are going to spill out over the next few days and weeks but at the core of the story it seems that there's a real truth to the trump administration that we sometimes allude to but never really get to and it is this. don mcgahn, the white house counsel, found out about this a year ago january six months before john kelly became chief of staff and because he was impress and the president of the united states was impressed with rob porter's professionalism and hiss ability to handle paperwork, security clearance or no security clearance they are impressed with the job that he could do, they didn't care about the difference between right and wrong. >> yeah. and there are, katty kay, just, so many systems that are lacking