president to robert mcgabe and hussein. >> that's strong. >> fairly strong. >> betsy -- although, in the central valley, that kind of rhetoric goes over well. you've been talking to folks, betsy, on the hill about him. what are people on both sides of the aisle saying about watching this play out? >> one of the most interesting observations i heard today actually came from a former senior justice official. what that person told me was that when nunes was first named chairman of the intelligence committee, back in the previous era before this whole russia situation really started taking off, among folks who were in the national security law space and intelligence space, there were some immediate concerns. and part of the reason for those concerns was that nunes wasn't viewed as somebody who was a serious heavy hitter on intelligence matters. and what that would mean is that nunes was very much going to be guided and heavily influenced by the staff he chose. he wouldn't necessarily be in a