find out what is going on in russia, what is going on in north korea, what is going on in china, and you got to be able to protect those people in the jobs that they're in. and if you release information that gives those sources away, then that can create some really important problems for our intelligence gathering process. >> well but if you are a member of congress and you believe that the classification is -- argument is an excuse for a little cya, what should you do? >> i think if -- if your concerned about whether or not something should have been classified, there are ways to challenge that. you could challenge it in the committee, challenge it through the executive branch, the fact is there are ways to try to raise questions about whether something should be classified or not. but the wrong way to do is to simply throw it out there without checking with those that are involved to show just how sensitive that information can