and what the president's involved in. we just see the government operating in ways and people not agreeing on things we would never ever have seen before. >> and, carroll lee, we also have a deadline on russia sanctions that was imposed by congress in a bipartisan way. the administration kicking that can down the road making all kinds of excuses saying, well, there's a classified part of it. they basically came out with a list of russians to be sanctions at 11:50 last night and the list, we all looked at it overnight, were talking back and forth on twitter with michael mcfaul, he was at stanford, and people were saying why are these people on the list? they took the list of rich russians out of "forbes" rather than doing their own investigation on it. >> yeah, you know, andrea, this just feeds the serpgs this is an administration and a president who will be soft on russia. people who believe he is approaching it that way because there's something nefarious in