in that narrative is that she, the woman, was moved to a different position. he wasn't moved out. yeah. she was the one who brought the concern and the allegations and others corroborated. and she was put into a different position in the campaign, not him. and that says all you need to know about how even the most sophisticated people in the world deal with this issue. >> yeah. being heard is only part of it. >> that's right. >> i just don't understand. i just don't understand it. she's not disputing any of the facts in that story n that tweet. she's not saying, no, this is a wrong account. the account is pretty damning. he ended up working in the super pac. >> over the objections of two women who said you should be fired. >> the idea that she can't say sorry and she made a mistake and gravely regrets it, i just don't understand it. >> katherine, you mentioned women are so motivated, i want to show our viewers a piece of the new interview from president trump, which may or may not