michael, give us a sense of the tick-tock when trump fired and did he effectively by his lights fire mueller? >> it's june a month after mueller's an pointed a month after comey was fired. that had blown up in their faces. he goes to mcgahn and says look, i think that mueller has these conflict of interest issues including the fact he was a member at one of my golf clubs and had a membership dispute. this was very concerning to mcgahn who obviously was willing to put his job on the line to try and stop it. >> those of us who obviously read about richard nixon read ms times where he would make orders like go blow up the brookings institution or break in and make it look like a democrat job. is this one of those cases where the president twaeshl gave an order, wanted it carried out, wanted mueller gone and in the