times before there is no intention or plan to make any changes in regards to the special counsel. >> is he setting the stage for firing bob mueller? >> chuck, no, there is no -- >> there is no way? there is no way he's going to fire him. >> there is no conversation about that. >> for the 1,000th time, we have no intentions of firing bob mueller. >> so matthew, as you heard, there was no intention of firing bob mueller. what was the white house saying today because as we've learned from lawyer friends on this panel, this was a constitutional -- consequential story. >> what is most spectacular is the silence saying as kellyanne conway was shown saying there in august, there's been no discussion of firing bob mueller. now we know trump ordered just that back in june. look, we know these aren't the most credible people but for something like this, it really is explosive to go back and see the times they denied this. there has been no official denial from the white house aside from the president calling it fake news. in that "new york times" article, something i thought was