there's a lot of interest in here. perhaps don junior made a mistake that could eventually become an important part of the story line. it's impossible to know at this stage what sort of information we maybe able to glean from this that's different from where we already are. but, again, i think there was some pressure from the witnesses themselves for this to come out. >> let's go back to when we first learned about this meeting. it exploded in the press. it was one of those things that if you're asking if there was any attempts or work between the trump campaign and anyone in russia to try to influence the election, you could point out this meeting and say, look, don junior got on simplicity note from somebody in russia or someone purporting to have someone from russia with russian information, russian dirt on hillary clinton coming from a different foreign power, not an ally of the u.s. and don junior saying, i love it, especially for later in the summer. later in the summer we got all