qualifications, but based upon what he said he was going to do and who he was surrounding himself with. evangelical support is not unconditional. if the president were to all of the sudden revert back to some of that behavior as president, the evangelical support will not be there for him. so it's basically -- we kind of gave him, all right, you get a mulligan you. get a do-over here. >> gene robinson. >> whoa. >> is back with us. gene, please don't use any golf terminology, because i really don't understand that stuff. so this $130,000, if that came out of trump businesses to make that payment, that is a campaign finance violation. >> yeah. >> and it's also a campaign violation if it came out of donald trump's pocket because he didn't report it as a campaign contribution. >> that's correct.