interview. do you think his claim, i want to zero in on if he went back to this. let's say something like this happened in the white house and evangelical support wouldn't be there. i don't believe him, do you? >> you could question whether that refers to the sexual proclivities of trump in the past. let's look at the charlott charlottesville incident where there were questions what kind of moral leadership is coming out of president trump. that's something as president that is after the point where a lot of evangelical leaders said they were not counting. what is the response there? he did not change the level of support among leaders for him and in fact, you see the strengthening of support among evangelical leaders that point to things like policy on abortion and the mexico city letter and say they are happy getting that and it means more to get that than immigration where you see evangelical leaders, including some on the