government that shuts down. starting tonight, many of the 9 million children who depend on c.h.i.p., the children's health insurance program, will lose their coverage. joining me is mark shriver, director of save the children usa. i don't have to tell you that we're at the height of flu season. one of the worst flus we've seen. children are dying. people are in ers. and the government could potentially shut down and all of these kids would not be covered. >> it's an amazing program started by senator kennedy and senator hatch. he said we had a moral obligation to our children. we're 21 years later using this as a big bargaining chip. the kids, poor kids, don't have access to the political system and they have been pushed aside. they don't vote or give money. and both republicans and democrats have let this happen. it's the fourth time we've had a cr. it's crazy, right? and the fact we're negotiating