he has 30-some percent of the country behind him, and they basically say screw you to matter what you say. they don't care about russia. he's talking to them all the time. so he says, i'm going to negotiate. i want a written set of questions. i mean, it seems to me that's an admission of a low iq or whatever. i have to have them written down, so i can go back and look at the facts with somebody or make up a story. >> that's right. >> cops don't let you do that, by the way. when they pick you up, they start interrogating you. they don't wait for you to go -- let's take a couple of weeks off while you get a lawyer and think about it. >> and trump could direct his counsel to file a motion with the district court to quash the subpoena. and that could result in litigation that could go up and down in the supreme court and basically trump could try to run out the clock and make it much harder for bob mueller. so i agree with barbara, mueller ultimately holds a lot of the cards. but the president has a legal strategy that he can employ to try to delay this, to try to elongate this and to try to avoid scrutiny. because i think if the president sits down with mueller, he's going to be caught between perjury and stating incriminating facts about his own conduct.