>> by the way, we're not able to get to the detail and refer to it. one of the reasons the book is fascinating and necessary reading is how does tony blair know jared kushner? that's something to save for another time or buy the book. >> as a little -- i was -- when that happened, so much happened, i'm sit ogen the couch in the west wing and there is jared kushner and tony blair coming out. >> you see them snogt. >> totally. i actually overheard, i'm overhearing the discussion of which i obviously immediately take a note on and talking about the difficulties of the middle east situation and jared says to tony blair, damn it, we can solve this problem. >> and that's in the lobby of the west wing? >> yep. >> that is kind of like for people that don't know, a hotel lobby and people pass through and that kind of moment can occur. i remember working in the senate going up there for a tax meeting and the cia director over there