information out. is that the way donald trump has operated? he needs to constantly call and get reinforcement from friends and eating in bed? >> not only that he constantly needs to call and get reinforcement from friends but that he lives an isolated existence. he doesn't like to socialize. he's never been visible on the charity circuit. he doesn't go to black tie events in manhattan. his ideal evening is to sit with a cleez buheeseburger in front tv watching sports. liz smith once said to me the only thing you need to know about donald trump is he's a 7-year-old growing old. there's a lot of truth to that. >> jen, you have people on the staff, these are people who are working for donald trump, who wanted him to be president, they are still working towards a successful presidency for him. they say insulting donald trump is the thing you could not do and the thing drawing there but for the grace of god guffaws