candidness with which people apparently spoke to michael wolf, the candidness with which they spoke over dinner and the reality is those conversations either contradict or confirm statements made to bob mueller by some of the same people in interviews during his investigation, upping the likelihood at least the percentage of perjury of white house officials. >> only one of the parties involved has to consent to the recording. the other person doesn't even need to know about it. also pretty notable if you look at the acknowledgments of michael wolf's book, he thanks his liable lawyer eric raymond pretty high up. so, i think he knew what he was getting into with this. steve bannon is facing a lot of blow back from this. the president has a nickname for him, sloppy steve. >> not as good as lying ted. >> or little katie, i guess. sloppy steve. is sloppy steve going to be able to make a comeback with this president? how does he feel tonight?