>> in quotes? >> he talks about just sitting on the west wing couch and just watching the staffers and the aides as they were running by. he calls it a thoroughfare. and he had access, close access, to all of the senior aides. he talks about the author's note. also check out an author's note to see how somebody put together a book. he talking about how he did this with hundreds of interviews from the president to the senior staff, some who tooked dozens of times. that's kind of a questionable thi thing. makes you wonder what in the book might be hearsay or second or third hand. there's already some folks coming out saying i never said that. so the question is how is he going to be able to authenticate some quotes in the book. he does have some tapes. >> did doesn't sound like he has tapes of all of the interviews. >> the very first anecdote in the book is about a dinner between steve bannon and roger ailes. where ailes seems to be, as wolff rights, incredulous, who