with this pakistani problem by deciding to keep their toe in the water, as it were, maintain lines of communication and not alienate the government. what is the president's strategy with islamabad as you can see it? is there a strategy or is this all impulse? >> let me start by saying i spent four years as the supreme allied commander in nato in charge of the afghanistan operation. i yield to no man in my occasional frustration with pakistan and their two-sided game on that border. that is real. on the other hand, what should we do about it? as a general proposition, that kind of grandiose criticism, again, back to the tweets, calling out a nation in that kind of language from the white house, cutting the money is less the issue than the pride and the way pakistanis perceive themselves. of course, this has led to demonstrations all over pakistan. so, i'm in favor of kind of tough love with pakistan.