substantive policies like great action the president has taken on issues like tax reform, internet freedom, you know, defeating isis. so i would rather focus on policy and substance, and i think that the president is able to do that by using social media very effectively. >> all right. matt, when you hear -- i know there's a chuckle right there in using social media effectively in saying that 2017 was great in the view of carrie. there's a little chuckle there. >> yeah, look, i think peter baker is right about one thing. that trump is having an enormous effect on the presidency. i think it's very negative. some things aren't going to be repeated with our next president, god willing. we're not going to have the grifting of, you know, enriching himself and his family. we're not going to have the path logical need for affirmation from everyone, including foreign leaders. and you know, i don't know whether we'll have the indiscipline we have seen in every aspect of his life,