conniving, evil, evil, lying type of person that would do anything that she can to basically get her way. >> of course, it was different when kate brought heather around to see him that first time. >> she was attractive. >> talked, told him all kinds of things. >> she told me her son died from a disease that she was trying to help find -- >> the cure for? >> the cure for because she was supposed to be a doctor, and she told me that her daughter and her husband got killed in a bad car accident. >> ethan was entranced, he said. claimed he believed everything she told him. that's when they moved in together, and each day he'd go to his hotel job, and she'd head off to the hospital to her doctor work. >> she would be getting up, putting on make-up, putting on her scrubs, putting on her white jacket with her name that was sewed in it. >> but heather had another story, says ethan, one she had used on other marks.