it managed to get via court order. how big after deal is this? >> i think i'm a sensitive snow flake on some of these things. the vice president was meeting with who knew at the time to craft and began a big energy p. it became a big scanned will and it encompassed the administration. that is happening across the speck tum here. they are not giving us details about who the agency has meetings with, which would give us some indication of who is helping shape policy but it extends beyond that.