this is the tone. how does that affect when the president of the united states is talking that way, how does that affect the united states standing in this world? >> sure. so again, as you noted, the most inflammatory comments have been disputed by other people who were in the meeting as well. so that is important to note in addition to the official comments from the white house. but i think in terms of tone overall 2016 was a wake-up call to the political establishment chamber of commerce conservatives republicans who were taking this unfettered approach to immigration. we need to be more like canada and i think that's what senator tom cotton is doing as well, to say it should be merit-based -- >> but i'm asking about the tone here. >> sure. >> the first clip we played there coming in is november 1st. he's president of the united states. again, we can take "the new york times" one aside here. the overall tone when he talks about immigration is not hey, let's consider this proposal from cotton. he's talking in some very, very blunt terms in a way presidents haven't before. >> well, i think, again, it's a wake-up call because that -- a lot of conservatives felt like republicans had been asleep at the wheel. so when someone is asleep at the