i loved to body surf, and i would go in every morning before i went to bed, and i remember at some point during this, being in the waves, in the sunlight, and looking back at the hills and malibu and thinking, how can i be doing this? how can i be giving all this up? >> i was 13 at the time. he said there was a secret history of the vietnam war that he'd been reading and he had a copy of this. and he had decided that he wanted to make a copy of it and make it available to congress. he described it in terms of civil disobedience, would i help him. i don't suppose he needed my help, but that this was something risky and very important to him, and it was important to him that i be a part of it in some way.