hated hillary. if hillary would manage to squeak it in the college they've wanted her starting off weak. does trump have a hand in that. see that so far. >> flynn hold the key to that knowledge. we are beginning to see this glimpse of collusion. even the charging document today where we seat transition officials, well knowing, what, what, mike flynn its up to, with the russians. so i think we are getting glimpses of that. within the realm of possibility that trump had a hand in that. >> let's talk legal questions here. frank. john, you and then, paul. let me ask you this. what about, if the president sees his son-in-law, he know he has to care about just as long as he lives. worry about his son-in-law. husband of his daughter. beloved daughter. and, the father of his grand kids. he wants to keep him out of jail. now, paul there is the question. does he, now, simply, pardon the