julie and mike have been working on that story for weeks and weeks. when we approach a story, we're not coming at this trying to say will this anecdote move the needle politically one way or the other. we're trying to understand what happens behind closed doors when the president is making and crafting immigration policy. but to your point, this isn't the first time that the president when talking about immigration said things that people found offensive. remember we're talking about mexican immigration and he's called them drug dealers and rapists and killers. so whether it matters or not, that really isn't part of the calculus among my colleagues. >> that's been part of his i guess vernacular since he declared his candidacy for the president. the very first time he said i'm running for president he was talking about mexicans in derogatory ways that way. is the article overall, matt, begins with the oval office meeting where the president is upset because apparently friends were calling him to say he